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Permalink Reply by Zaw Aung on February 2, 2012 at 11:30pm

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Permalink Reply by pyiphyomgmgsoe on February 2, 2012 at 11:42pm

ျမန္မာ ျပည္မွာ internet speed က အဲ့သေလာက္လဲ မဆိုးပါဘူး ဟီးဟီး . . . ကၽြန္ေတာ္ေတာ့ လုပ္ေနတာဘဲ download ေတြ . . . ဒါေပမဲ့ ေစာင့္ေတာ့ ေစာင့္ရတာေပါ့ . . . ရိုးရာမပ်က္ေလးေပါ့ . . . :)

>>>>ပီးေတာ့ ေဒါင္းလုပ္အျမန္ႏႈန္းဟာ ျမန္မာျပည္တိုးတက္ေရးအတြက္ အဓိကက်တယ္ယူဆရင္၊ ျမန္မာျပည္ကို ကိုယ္တိုင္ျပန္ျပီး ေဒါင္းလုပ္အျမန္ႏႈန္းတက္လာေရး သြားလုပ္ၾကပါ။>>>> အဲ့စကားကိုေတာ့ ခိုက္တယ္ဗ်ာ . . .

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Permalink Reply by Jake on February 3, 2012 at 10:01am

My view for this is we should focus on stability of Internet infrastructure and penetration rather than the download speed. Download speed for me is mainly marketing gimmick from ISP. Because it is only meant for the connection speed between your home and ISP. Which means if they say 10Mbps, that's only from your home to ISP server. Most ISP has Speedtest or FTP server to prove it.

 

Not a single ISP in the world can guarantee download speed for global Internet traffic. Because the actual download speed is determined by throughput utilization of ISP's global Internet transit links, peak hours, the serving web server's bandwidth limitation for requests, physical local loop condition and errors, physical local loops sharing utilization (yea we share our Internet connections from our homes to ISP in certain neighborhood telecom exchange/riser for certain type of connections) and many more factors.

 

So as long as my access network type allows, I can give you very high number of download speed for customers. And one important fact is that the actual speed won't directly proportional to the bandwidth increase. Which means your Internet speed won't be double even you double your Internet connection bandwidth. You can only probably increase number of users by higher bandwidth.

 

Benefit of having higher bandwidth (like in other developed countries such as Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, etc.) is mainly visible if we have IP services locally, for example, we have IP TV and movie content servers, software update servers, game servers, medical healthcare systems, cloud services, etc. in Myanmar.

So my opinion is we should be looking at more stability of local loops and access network and better penetration (more subscribers) rather than going for higher speed. Having better broadband penetration in the country has direct impact on social and economy development. There are many studies to prove that fact. Of course having high speed broadband is ultimate goal but for Myanmar we should start from the ground, not jumping to the top.

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Permalink Reply by Zaw Aung on February 4, 2012 at 12:13am

Thank You ..
knowledge on broadband ISP...

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Permalink Reply by Lynn Zaw on February 5, 2012 at 3:38pm

My son can do it better than any other speeding application.

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Permalink Reply by Lynn Zaw on February 5, 2012 at 3:41pm

We start ground,since before you and me born: but stay the same speed.

Jake said:

My view for this is we should focus on stability of Internet infrastructure and penetration rather than the download speed. Download speed for me is mainly marketing gimmick from ISP. Because it is only meant for the connection speed between your home and ISP. Which means if they say 10Mbps, that's only from your home to ISP server. Most ISP has Speedtest or FTP server to prove it.

 

Not a single ISP in the world can guarantee download speed for global Internet traffic. Because the actual download speed is determined by throughput utilization of ISP's global Internet transit links, peak hours, the serving web server's bandwidth limitation for requests, physical local loop condition and errors, physical local loops sharing utilization (yea we share our Internet connections from our homes to ISP in certain neighborhood telecom exchange/riser for certain type of connections) and many more factors.

 

So as long as my access network type allows, I can give you very high number of download speed for customers. And one important fact is that the actual speed won't directly proportional to the bandwidth increase. Which means your Internet speed won't be double even you double your Internet connection bandwidth. You can only probably increase number of users by higher bandwidth.

 

Benefit of having higher bandwidth (like in other developed countries such as Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, etc.) is mainly visible if we have IP services locally, for example, we have IP TV and movie content servers, software update servers, game servers, medical healthcare systems, cloud services, etc. in Myanmar.

So my opinion is we should be looking at more stability of local loops and access network and better penetration (more subscribers) rather than going for higher speed. Having better broadband penetration in the country has direct impact on social and economy development. There are many studies to prove that fact. Of course having high speed broadband is ultimate goal but for Myanmar we should start from the ground, not jumping to the top.

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Permalink Reply by Jake on February 5, 2012 at 10:39pm

It's not about whether they start from ground or not for what is the situation now.

It's only the matter whether they want to do it. If they want to do it, then they must do it right.

What you are seeing now is not because they start from ground. It's simply they are not doing it right.

Anyway, we must give them credit for increasing the subscribers over the years. Sometime, you need to know where you are. We are not in first world country. Don't forget that.

Lynn Zaw said:

We start ground,since before you and me born: but stay the same speed.

Jake said:

My view for this is we should focus on stability of Internet infrastructure and penetration rather than the download speed. Download speed for me is mainly marketing gimmick from ISP. Because it is only meant for the connection speed between your home and ISP. Which means if they say 10Mbps, that's only from your home to ISP server. Most ISP has Speedtest or FTP server to prove it.

 

Not a single ISP in the world can guarantee download speed for global Internet traffic. Because the actual download speed is determined by throughput utilization of ISP's global Internet transit links, peak hours, the serving web server's bandwidth limitation for requests, physical local loop condition and errors, physical local loops sharing utilization (yea we share our Internet connections from our homes to ISP in certain neighborhood telecom exchange/riser for certain type of connections) and many more factors.

 

So as long as my access network type allows, I can give you very high number of download speed for customers. And one important fact is that the actual speed won't directly proportional to the bandwidth increase. Which means your Internet speed won't be double even you double your Internet connection bandwidth. You can only probably increase number of users by higher bandwidth.

 

Benefit of having higher bandwidth (like in other developed countries such as Singapore, South Korea, Sweden, etc.) is mainly visible if we have IP services locally, for example, we have IP TV and movie content servers, software update servers, game servers, medical healthcare systems, cloud services, etc. in Myanmar.

So my opinion is we should be looking at more stability of local loops and access network and better penetration (more subscribers) rather than going for higher speed. Having better broadband penetration in the country has direct impact on social and economy development. There are many studies to prove that fact. Of course having high speed broadband is ultimate goal but for Myanmar we should start from the ground, not jumping to the top.

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Permalink Reply by Jake on February 5, 2012 at 10:41pm

That's rubbish. We are not talking about how to increase your computer download speed probably using some internet download manager or alike. We are talking about general nationwide speed and penetration.

Lynn Zaw said:

My son can do it better than any other speeding application.

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Permalink Reply by Zaw Aung on February 6, 2012 at 7:48am

    စင္ကာပူ၊ထိုင္း၊မေလးရွား ..အေမရိကားေတြမွာ Download 1-2Mbps (USB Stick) ဆိုရင္ တလကို US$10-15 ေလာက္ပဲေပးရတယ္။ Laptop & PC ေတြမွ ေရာက္တဲ့ေနရာက ကြန္ျပဴတာမွာ ထည့္သံုးလို႔ရပါတယ္။  Smart Phone, iPad Tablets ေတြလည္း Data Plan က တလကို US$10-15 ေလာက္ပါပဲ။ ျမန္မာျပည္မွာေတာ့ US$80 အထက္ေပးရတယ္။ ဒါက ငါးေထာင္တန္ဆင္းမ္ကဒ္ ျပသနာလိုပါပဲ .. ဒီခရီုနီလူတန္းစားက လက္၀ါးၾကီးအုပ္စနစ္ေၾကာင့္ပါ။

    အိုင္တီသမားမ်ား ျမန္မာျပည္မပ်ံႏိုင္ေသးပါဘူး.. ဒီခရိုနီေတြကို ျပိဳင္ဖို႔ အားမရွိေသးပါဘူး။ .. စုေပါင္းအင္အားနဲ႔ပဲ ျပိဳင္ႏိုင္ပါမယ္။  ျမန္မာ၂ေယာက္ေပါင္းရင္ အဖြဲ႔တစ္ဖြဲ႔လုပ္ရမဲ့အခ်ိန္ေရာက္လာျပီမို႔ ..

   ကိုးရီးယားလူမ်ိဳး ေခါင္းေဆာင္မ်ားလို စစ္မွန္တဲ့မ်ိဳးခ်စ္စိတ္အိုင္တီသမားမ်ား ဦးေဆာင္မဲ့အခ်ိန္နီးလာပါျပီ...ေလာေလာဆယ္ေတာ့ ေငြမပါပဲ၊လူခ်ည္း အလည္ပ်ံေနသူမ်ားလွပါတယ္...။ အဲဒီလူေတြ ေဒါင္းလုပ္စပိ ျမန္လာေရး(သို႔မဟုတ္) Internet infrastructure လုပ္ႏိုင္ပါေစဆုေတာင္းပါတယ္..။

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Permalink Reply by Ye'Myint Maung on February 10, 2012 at 6:59pm

ဆုေတာင္းတိုင္းသာ ျပည့္ေစလုိပါတယ္ ...... အဓိက ျဖစ္သင့္တာက ေတာ့  စိတ္ဓါတ္ေကာင္းဖုိ႕လည္း အေရးႀကီးတဲ့ အခန္းက႑မွာ ပါ၀င္တယ္ .... ပညာရပ္မပါ၀င္ပဲနဲ႕ ၾကား၀င္ေဆြးေႏြးပါရေစ ........ ဥပမာ ငါးေထာင္တန္ဖုန္းကိုပဲၾကည့္ပါ .... အခု ဆက္သြယ္ေရးကို ဖုိက္ေနၾကပီ ......... စိတ္ဓါတ္နဲ႕လည္း ဆုိင္ပါတယ္ ........ တကယ္တမ္း တိုးတက္ေစခ်င္တယ္ဆိုရင္ေတာ့  ျပည္ပ က  စတိတ္ဟိုဒါ ၊ ျပည္ပေရာက္ ျမန္မာျပည္သား တကနင္ရွင္နဲ႕ ဂါးဗားမန္႕ တုိ႕က အစြမ္းကုန္ ႀကိဳးစားလုိက္ရင္ ျဖစ္ေနပါပီ .... အခုက စိတ္ဓါတ္ေလးေတြ နည္းနည္းမေကာင္းေသးလုိ႕သာ ဒီလုိျဖစ္ေနတာပါ .. အခုေတာ့ စိတ္ဓါတ္ေလးေတြက အရင္ကထက္စာရင္ ေကာင္းလာပါပီ... ေနာင္ဒီထက္ အဆ တစ္ရာေလာက္ ေကာင္းလာပါ ေစလုိ႕ ဆုေတာင္းလုိက္ပါတယ္ .......

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